Wednesday, June 30, 2021

Points you may know for selling your watch


Selling your watches for maximum profit is definitely every seller’s intention. However it does require some strategy and plan to. A proper way will yield results includes you doing everything you can to present the watch enticingly to a group of potential buying audience.

Most people will fumble around via trial & error attempting to figure out what’s maximum price working for them. So what ends up happening? They spend a large amount of time trying to create a sales nut this is only fishing, it waste time. Should be preferred to stick to an anchor point or set of rules that have been tried and true.

These strategies are used by majority of the watch sellers worldwide. Here’s some tips to help you start selling your watches better.

Exposure

It seems obvious that in order to better your chances of getting your watch purchased, you would maximize the amount of exposure to the largest audience of buyers possible. The sad truth is, this strategy is very critical to selling success, yet very few people actually execute on this. Think about how many places you can show off your watch for sale. The effort is high to put your watches everywhere, That may not be the best too.

As you can see there is no shortage of options, and this is just a short list of many other creative ways you can get your watch noticed and let potential buyers know it’s for sale.

Take lifestyle pictures of your watch and post it on your Facebook personal page, Facebook business page, your Instagram, watch enthusiast group, Carousell, Chrono24 or eBay.

For whatever reason, whether it’s because we’re lazy, or because we just didn’t think of how to do it, people slack on giving their watch exposure which limits the amount of buyer activity on the watch. Humans have short attention spans. Shit, I can’t even remember what i had for lunch yesterday, so how can you expect a potential buyer to think about your watch if you aren’t putting it in front of their face frequently? However this still works for certain general watches.

The more efficient and creative you can get about exposing your watch to POTENTIAL buyers, the easier it will be for you to sell it. 

How you list your watches

Exposure to your watch listing is very important. What’s equally important is how you list your watch. Too often, the approach here is haphazard, and watch traders end up sabotaging themselves. A classic example I see is folks will just have their watch newly-in, and post it immediately to a trader/wholesale/Whatsapp trader group for sale. The mistake here is you end up listing for a price that is may be too high for those audiences and your watch still hasn’t sold, you lower your price to these groups and everyone thinks you’re desperately trying to sell it because you couldn’t. 

We usually start at Brand X watch enthusiast groups and watch forums at a set margin. You think enthusiast group may pay you more as they are enthusiast on your watch say Brand X.

Sometimes it may do no good as they are enthusiasts, or an expert that know the watch inside out. They are fully aware the value or the price of it.   You keep your mass market listings up at the same retail price though, because we never know when you’ll have a buyer come along who is in love with your watch. By staggering the listing price and where you post the watch, you buy yourself time and help capture maximum profit. Finally, if in another 5-10 days after posting to the enthusiast groups and forums and the watch still hasn’t sold, THEN you have to move the listing to the wholesale/watch conspiracy groups to liquidate your watch at-cost or a small profit.

By listing your watch on the mass market platforms where dealers are commonly whatsapp groups, Facebook Marketplace and Carousell. You’ll get exposure to your listing at lowest market retail price, it is uncommon to see cases is the net profit of $150-250 for a BNIB Rolex. This is your biggest margin opportunity and where people will not pay you more because they know about watches.

And media is getting transparent and they are about to do research on prices at Chrono24, watchbox, eBay and sort out what is the best buying price for his watch and comparing with your selling prices.  However, this is so far the fastest means to sell your watch if you don’t mind reducing the profit.

High price must come with reason

If you sell, must come with enough explanation on why the price is like that. We know a Rolex Watch of the same type, same year that may have a price difference of 2 time, because of the quality, you have to list down how your watch is and why it comes up with this price with supporting reason.

You are looking for certain high class buyer, forget those people who just sort out the LOWEST price on particular model on line, they may always buy a Bad watch.

Trust on seller

The #1 reason buyers make fast decisions to purchase a watch is that they trust the seller they are buying from. This is why repeat customers are fantastic for you to keep track of and sell to in the future. You’ll understand why this approach is critical to moving watches fast for serious profit.

Trust is the reason buyers will move forward with at $30,000 watch purchase from you even if you’ve taken a few crappy photos of the watch itself. If the buyer has the layer of trust that “this person would never do me wrong, and if something went wrong they would make it right”, then they remove all of their own insecurity, psychological barrier and buying hesitations. Also there is minimum price negotiations.

Through Auction

Auction is good for certain expensive watches that may catch the world wide notice, and there may have more potential collector, individual invincible investors, tycoon wants to spend money on something he may not know. There are a lot of works to do, you have to pay for the picture and catalogues, and you have to leave the watch there shown at preview. Let some idiots to fool around your watch, drop it on the desk, well, you don’t feel the pain as you are not there probably, and after the hammer price seller had to pay 15% to the auction and buyer 25%. That is a lot on top of what you get. And it takes a longer time to get your money. And if not sold, they return you the watch, after that you had to check carefully on your watch again. Unless rare and special expensive watch, this is not the best way to sell. 

Through middle man

A middle man usually has a strong connection with Buyers and he finds you the best buyer.

This save your time and keep you safe on the transaction, Money guaranteed. Yes, you have to pay him certain percentage of commission on the sales. He tends to sell as much a she can for higher commission.

Since they know the buyer.. usually transaction would  take a few minutes , no hassle, not authentication needed on the watch at stupid Rolex Service centre at all. 

Build new potential buyer

A few ways to establish trust with new potential buyers is by offering them references, connecting with them via the phone, and on social media. Do keep some of the best comment on you at certain website. From some of the famous dealer and celebrity who had wonderful experience buying experience with you. 

Enticing Photos

People purchase emotionally impulse first and justify those purchases rationally after, so use emotion to your advantage with your photos! When people see crisp, clean, high-resolution photos of watches, they feel comfortable buying. They feel like the seller isn’t hiding anything from them in the pictures. My favorite method of taking photos doesn’t require you purchasing expensive camera equipment. It just involves taking photos with a smartphone in outside natural lighting, preferably not in direct sunlight. Optimal conditions are on an overcast day or just in a light shade area when the sun is out. For product photos, shots from all different angles and focus on certain details, such as hallmarks, lug corners, bevel sharpness, dial surface stains, bracelet reference number, and printing of the dial and what’s included with the watch are key.

For lifestyle photos, get creative! You can elicit such strong emotions from potential buyers when you take amazing photos. For example, a Blue dial Rolex Submariner  in gold in the foreground with a matching blue Lamborghini in the background gets people excited about the watch, shows off how amazing the watch is, and elicits desire in them to buy. You may able to sell the Lamborghini after the Submariner.

Accessibility

Making yourself accessible to those who are asking you questions about your watch and want to buy from you is vital. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen sellers sabotage themselves by making these mistakes. When a buyer reaches out with a question and the seller responds hours or even days later. That’s a lost sale right there, and reflective of the type of customer service the buyer may expect if they move forward with that seller.  Another mistake is people who don’t make themselves accessible on social media, or via phone, Whatsapp had been turn off half day to one… Buyer will be thinking are you serious in selling.  If you’re about to wire someone $5,000 + wouldn’t you want to know who the hell you’re doing business with? I know I would. Don’t be the idiot who has a picture of their cats, a Rolex watch dial or a blank JPG as their profile picture on social media, or half face cover his hair or the dump hat, HAHA, You’re an adult, and you are a brand in this day of social information. Start representing yourself correctly.

If you want to close deals for more profit, be accessible. Encourage buyers to connect with you online, and/or call you if they have questions about your watch. This gives them that layer of comfort knowing you’re not a scammer or not going to go anywhere if shit hits the fan. Make a date to show your watch tentatively, yes, there are a lot of people who has no money but want to spend time this way meeting you for the coffee, but so far the percentage of this is still low, no one would like to come out to just to drink your coffee. Well, if he will coming out at least the chance to close the deal is 50%.

Security

Case #1

There is a story happened in 2020, a friend K of mine was about to sell his expensive Daytona, he made appointment with one potential buyer, he did not know him, well my friend K went into the window  seat of Chui Wah Eatery at Carnavon Road No.1. He sat inside of the seat… the his potential buyer came and sit beside him (Mistake 1,  we used not seat this way, must be face to face… as your buyer may block you moving out of the seat). And he started chitchatting about watch, bullshitting stuff, buyer called his another friend to come, this is common, but (mistake 2, they have not talked about this before), Mr.  K carried on talking and started showing him the Daytona, (mistake 3, If I were Mr. K I would cancel the deal).

Next happening is the guy opposite Mr. K took the watch and run! The Guy sit beside Mr. K blocked him to move… haha, exciting right like a movie theme…but it happened.

This is one example…

Case #2

Buying a Milgauss, seller is showing a Milgauss to his buyer who came with her attractive girl friend.. This happened, and whilst seller is watch the girl especially on the prominent boos, buyer said the watch is not he want and returned seller,… OK seller packed and went home still thinking about the beautiful lady. Later he found that watch is a genuine fake.  The eyes had enjoyed a lot but you had to pay with watch!

Case #3

I went to sell three Rolexes to one gentleman who is the son in law of Mr. T in Thailand… we were in Peninsular hotel and he brought his wife there, we had ordered some drinks and his wife showed me her Bloodstone Day Date 18038… I was drooling…. Well I sold him three Rolex. One is Rolex DD 1803 with buckle Bracelet. One is Purple dial Buckley Date Just in 18 KT gold… and one is Date Just blue dial in steel with paper. He told me he will send me money after the deal, I left him the watch and we left…. 

Summary

Keep these core fundamentals in mind when building out your own selling strategy.

If you do, I am confident you’ll find that you will start selling watches faster and for greater profit.

There is no standard ways to expand your sale, starting it with your way you think is best and easy to start first.

Mistakes and Experience will guide you where you should go next.

HK Snob

Remarks

Picture show three men robbed a Daytona during the watch trade at MTR

Sunday, June 27, 2021

Complaint to Watch Manufactures on their trade practice

 I had sent two mails on for Rolex and one for Patek in a unhappy feeling about what we 

being a collector that I can't get the watch in weeks, nor years or even forever in the normal channel.

Whereby those grey dealer could get as many as they can at some special channel. 

Well, this is free market, I am fully aware but I am just asking them what is the proper channel to buy our watch we need to buy as a watch aficionado.

Lets see what is the response from them.

Or if you have any suggestion to get the watch we want at SRP, let me know.

You can send me private message
to my Whatsapp no. if you want.

HK Snob


Sunday, June 20, 2021

Omega Premiere on 2021 novelty watches








It was my great pleasure and honour to be invited into the first session on 2021 Omega novelty started on 19 June in Central.

We have been introduced on the manufacturing process of  Omega alloy on their watch, process of manufacturing ceramic cases and the use of their own formula on precious metals to prevent tarnishing over time.

These are Omega gold alloy

Yellow gold with Au 75%, Cu 20% and Ag 5%

SEDNA Yellow gold  Au 75%, Cu 20% and Pd 1%

3N Rose gold with Au 75%, Cu 12.5% and Ag 12.5%

CANOPUS white gold with Au 75%, PD 21%, RH 2% and PT 1%

Besides, Omega is using liquids metal creating the "Naiad-Lock case back" to ensure that all engravings on the rear of the watch stay oriented correctly. the word "naiad" comes from the Greek and refers to mythological water spirits.

We were introduced with 2021 De Ville and and Seamaster watches.

The second picture are the only two pieces in Omega Hong Kong. They are Seamaster in Lapis Lazuli and malachite. 

Personally I like the Malachite more and I believe no one is using with these material as dial on their diving watch in the past 20 years other than Omega. Rolex had been using Onyx and Lapis to make a number of Submariners 16618 back in 1994-2001, I had one with Lapis and one with Onyx before.

They are fetching a very high price in auction by now with Lapis close to $1M and Onyx $700,000.

Omega had once using these material on their Seasmaster in 2018. and only few pieces were made. This material would enlighten the beauty if a gold Seamaster and that would be a future sought after and auction hot item. I was told only two pieces were available in this premiere in Hong Kong. I was lucky enough to see it.

In my opinion Yellow gold goes with Green perfectly. 

Such as those most successful introduction of Rolex Daytona ref 116508 green dial and SPR is $286,000 but now they are asking in open market of $650,000!

Latest Tudor BB58 Ref 79018V Yellow gold with green bezel and green dial. SPR $126,000 and market starts to pick up now.

Well, another one worth my consideration is a vintage look with 9K gold alloyed with bronze Seamaster 300 with sandwich dial with a awesome patina look. The SPR is $92,100.

Remarks, I could not resist the temptation, I had to take home this two beauties.

HK Snob

Unit shown here HKD$

Thursday, June 17, 2021

Shall we go for New or neo-Vintage Rolex under such market changes of 2021

We have seen that there is a big change in Rolex market price in these few years.

I briefly categories them into new watches, neo-vintage and vintage watch here.

New watches are those made between 2010-2021

Neo-vintage are this made 1989-2010

Vintage watches are those made between 1988 or before.  (T <25 lume dial)

Vintage Rolex was enjoying a good days in price appreciation mainly in these years 2014-2019, as we can see price of GMT master 1675 and or Sea Dweller, 1665  was rising up 50% in these 5 year’s time and become flat after 2019 and even experienced price drop slightly in end of 2020 till now.

Rolex did announced in a form of internal memo they would stop offering free authentication service for vintage watches on 6 Dec 2020.

With this announcement, many new vintage collectors would hesitate in buying vintage Rolex as there is no way to tell his watch is made with correct period of the parts with the watch such as dial, hands, bezel and bracelet.

This will immediately created an impact to the dealer, shops as buyers are scary of the completeness of the vintage watch, so business of vintage watches dropped significantly. And those buyers or collectors would like to consider buying newer Rolex, so the new watches market would expand a lot.

Some of the private collectors would like to sell out some of his collection and switches buying new watches.

What is the best model vintage Rolex collectors would consider to buy as new watches, Daytona… so Daytona price kept going up. 

A Rolex Yellow gold Daytona 16618 was $150,000 in May 2020, and the same watch is now $230,000  (up 53%)

A White gold Daytona 116519 with black dial was $223,000 in 2019 and this is now $320,000!

You can see Daytona 116500LN white was $190,000 as an average in 2020, and was going to peak highest $320,000 on April 2021 as many of us speculated that it would be discontinued after April 2021.

After Watches and Wonders had no news of discontinuing on Daytona 1165100LN white on 7 April 2021, the price get softened and dropped from $300,000 down to $270,000 in one week, thence stabilized at the range of $260000-268,000 in these two months till now.

There used to have small number of dishonest dealer, shops and or individual fb sellers are killing the market by introduction of some of the frankenWatch to sell. So they kill the markets as no one is able to tell them officically thse are good stuff or Frankenwatches… there are still some individual expert or private company would guarantee the authentication of Rolex watches. However, no one would be more authorized as Rolex could do in the market.

More people is amazed by the new Rolex watches in these two years, and their price are keep going up. Mainly because they are more wearable comparing with Vintage Rolex.

What do you do with your cash for watches? likely buying newer watches of neo-vintage Rolex (1999-2010).

If you want to buy for daily uses as a me-too Rolex, go for new one.

If you want to buy certain watches as for investment or for your collection, get those neo-vintage, they are less complicated to choose and more repairable and wearable than those vintage Rolex. And they are more commonly been recognized as authenticated as more documented sources is available for your to learn and study about them.

So how about your treasure of Daytona 6263, Double RED 1665 Singapore Red 1680? Well, keep them and wait for next cycle to come… no one knows when may be two years or four or 8 years.

HK Snob

Units here is HKD (Hong Kong Dollars)

Thursday, June 10, 2021

Looking for hidden gem










I remembered I had a month anchorage at Salalah at the gulf of Oman by 1981…when I was on board the merchant vessel “White Sea”.

Salalah is the second largest city of Oman after Dhofar, also the biggest sea port in the Arab Peninsula.

It is the birthplace of the current Omani leader, Sultan Qaboos, and is located in the Dhofar Governorate in southern Oman. From the north, the city is surrounded by a mountain range that turns green with spectacular waterfalls during the Khareef season. From the south, it has a long beautiful coast that is embellished with white sands. It is a beautiful place, but by the summer of 1981, we were awaiting for moor one month before we can moor for cargo unloading.

I had a great chance to fish, as there was much we can do in the Arab port, no one is allowed to drink as beer, whisky store was bonded by Arabian customs officers once the shipped had arrived the port. Salalah shipping agent told me that Arabians do not eat those beautiful fishes as they called them fairy because of the colourful outlook. Those are green wrasse (Choerodon schoenleinii) and they are huge easily weighed 3 to 5 kgs each.
We use crab meat as bait on a string as we did not have fishing line, just put in we could catch big green wrasse, and we could possible caught 50 big fishes in just a day… This kind of fish is expensive in Hon Kong. The meat is so tender and we used to steam and serve with soya sauce, they were very delicious… but after a week, no one wanted to eat as we had enough with breakfast, lunch and dinner going to be the same fish!

The moral of this story is…. Try to get something no one wants in one place and that possible be gems in the eyes of someone… in other words, in the world of watches try not to compete with people who is looking for Daytona while price is too competitive already. Ty something else as to get the best net profit out of it.

Omega had been producing a lot of moon watches which I am not able to tell what series and model as they are as many as Panerai produced in the past ten years… unless you are really focusing in the Omega collections. Jack of all trades but master of nothing is always right to describe.

Alaska is so cold, but this Omega is so hot

OMEGA, SPEEDMASTER PROFESSIONAL, ALASKA PROJECT, LIMITED SERIES XXX/1970, REF. 311.32.42.30.04.001.

Perhaps no other modern kind of watch has quite encapsulated the spirit of the original NASA and pre-moon Speedmasters as much as the Alaska Project Limited edition as modern Icon of Speedmaster historical importance.

The Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch Alaska Project was the limited edition Speedmaster watch model that Omega introduced at Baselworld 2008. It happens to have one of the most interesting "limited-edition stories" among the modern limited-edition Omega Speedmaster Moon watches.

In 1970, Omega developed a Speedmaster that was a bit different from the then current Moonwatch models. They called it the Alaska project (it had to withstand extreme temperatures, especially those on the dark side of the Moon) and therefore Omega came up with the solution of an external casing made of red-anodized aluminum. The project title Alaska was from then on used for every assignment they did for NASA, like this 1978 Alaska III project watch that was re-certified for the Space Shuttle missions.

The dial was made white so it wouldn't absorb heat, and the red anodized aluminum case protects the watch in a temperature range from -148F to +260F.  NASA never purchased these watches and the project was cancelled at the end!

No other watch has captured the hearts minds of Omega collectors and enthusiasts as much as this. The Red anodized aluminum case is 58mm in diameter and we've still to see any collector quite brave or mad enough to wear one "On the go". I did it!

Price of Alaska project Omega

It was about $60,000 in 2008.

It was about $80,000 in 2019, then we see there is demand on it in 2020 January, price rose up to

$90,000 and By May we bought one with $105,000.  And price kept rising…

It is now about $350,000!

We here we are talking about Brand new full set unused one…

Price is still going up, what is the estimated price by end of 2021? Interesting. 

What is next for Omega

Well, people asked me, I think one of the most successful project is Omega Snoopy, launched at 2003, then another one in 2015, latest one was back to 2020, the 50th anniversary Silver Snoopy

Price is now $250,000, after goods are delivered in January 2021…. Price had been risen sharply and I really cannot estimated what price will it hit by Dec 2021…

From The past record, the 1st generation Snoopy is now HK$160,000

The second generation is now $380,000

With the new added nice and Start trek movie feature at the back of the 3rd generation Snoopy, I think this is the potential rising star or a hype for Omega.

I speculate that the price will overtake the 2nd generation by 2022… and By 2024 the price could possible go to $600,000!

Of course, this is my speculation, nothing can guarantee the price will go to that level, or even go above that level.

We you have chance try to get one at your local Omega boutique for this absolutely stunning piece.

HK Snob

Units here is in HKD (Hong Kong Dollar)

Pictures 

1. 2020 50th anniversary Omega Snoopy 

2. Back side of the 50th anniversary Omega Snoopy with rotating Earth and Rocket moving along the Earth

3. Omega Project Alaska full set

4.  Anodized red case for the watch

5,6. Omega Project Alaska watch

7. Port Salalah

8. A green Wrasse

9. M/V similar as the M/V White Sea/HPDS that I worked on it 1981-1982