Certain Watch Investment

A friend of mine has been doing such buy and sell of certain goods: Watches for more than ten years.
These are some of the items he has done in the past five years which is having pretty good return.


1. 2017 Rolex Daytona 16520 A series black NOS full set Bought $130,000 - sold in 2018 to an Italy Buyer $180,000 -Nett Profit $50,000
2. 2018 Two Rolex Daytona 16520 A series NOS full set bought $250,000 - sold two weeks later to a USA famous Buyer $300,000 - net profit $50,000. if he sells now, he can extra more $120,000.
3. 2017 Bought a Rolex Submariner 16618 Onyx dial with $178,000 - sold this year to a US car agent owner $330,000- net profit $152,000
4. 2016 Bought a Rolex Daytona 16618 Drop logo invested 6 with $180,000- sold to a Philippine PWC watch club member $250,000 - net profit $70,000
5. 2017 Bought a VC 222 in HK from a collector with $160,000 - sold two year later to a HK Collector $180,000- net profit $20,000
6. 2015 bought a AP RO solid gold 5402 with two digit S/N number HK$100,000 - sold in 2017 to a Philippine Collector $250,000 - net profit $150,000
7. 2017 Bought a Rolex Daytona 16528 invested "6" with $150,000 sold to a Macao Collector $200,000 one month later.- net profit $50,000
8. 2009-2012 Sold numerous Rolex Day Day solid gold 1803 with estimated profit of $250,000


Current item plan to sell... he told me one of them
Bought a Patek which belongs to the Ex Philippine President with $200,000 and plan to sell in auction in Philippines and promise to donate 50% of the auction money to support the poor people via charity donation.  After the auction house commission and charity donation , target net profit $200,000.


He does not want me to disclose his names as he is afraid of tax issue in HK.
Money shown here is HKD.


Moral of the story is that if you can made some candy money out from your hobby is SWEET!


HK Snob

Recent Price drop may be due to the saturation of Japan Import gray dealers' Rolex

Story was told that certain large batch of import Rolex is not paying the right tax through the right channel, and Big dealers are not taking any import gray dealer's watches as they might have not traceable  source information. Would be afraid of paying tax.


So the number of Watches going back to the market of Hong Kong and other Asian countries, so the supply is more than a few months ago.


So that is why we see few percent like 2% to 4% price drop on dealer watch price... Rolex is the major affected brand.


This may be sustained for a while and I keep an eye on the model, so long if that is discontinued model or with sticker should be good to keep for a while.


HK Snob

Bangkok Watch Market

Rolex AD at Paragon Shopping Mall

Thailand Rolex AD has No Sport models nothing except Date Just and Day Date, Yacht master II 44mm in Two tone and Solid white gold only.  After I had visited Airport, Paragon and Centre World shopping malls these three days.

Patek Boutique has nothing Nautilus not Aquanaut except Ref 5524G and 5524R, AC, PC, Calatrava, Eclipse....etc 

Ref 5524G is Baht 1.5M, you can get back 7% Tax at airport. That is HK$348,750 after tax refund which is about HK$10,000 higher than I can buy in Hong Kong.

On 5/F of Centre World shopping mall, there are about 6 watch shops selling pre-owned Rolex and Patek.

I say a few Rolex, total less than 20 Rolex with all the 6 Shops and About 4 Pateks.

I say one 5711 used but n hold, and 5980 solid gold.

What I feel is there may have more Vintage Watch shops that I have not been found...

All I can see is that they don't have many Stock.

That is why quite a few dealers is buying from HK every week returning Bangkok to sell.

HK Snob

Watch Price update July 2019

Recent Rolex, Patek hot item price has been little bit lowered 2%-3% in June.
That may be an indication of what HK current situation on too many unsold stock from the dealer. As someone may still hold up a lot Batman Oyster, Batman Jubilee, Hulk, Daytona Ceramic White. Other cause of price adjustment may be due to incoming Summer vacation. a lot of people is going for foreign country for vacation and they delay the purchase of watches till August or September watching of the price will be lower or not. As for longer term say second half of the year 2019, I don't think price will be further drop again, may be after September, the price will g up again to the level of May 2019, until next year Feb that people will keep an eye on the new release of Rolex, and many speculation n the discontinuing of Hulk in 2020, new release of Explorer II Ceramic...If you think you like it try to wait at AD, or if you can't wait , go for gray dealer, as it may be wise not to go into this price competition buying at such a high price. Today Dealer price is roughly: Hulk 116610LV HK$125,000-130,00. Batman Oyster 116710BLNR HK$134,000-138,000
Submariner 116610LN HK$85000 to 88,000
Pepsi 126710BLRO HK$142,000 to $144,000
Daytona White 116500LN HK$192,000-195,000
HK Snob